I have wondered why an attractive 30yo woman would have sex with a 15yo. I am passing this along as a possible explanation.
1. Social Media and Technology – Many of these teachers that get caught have either recorded incriminating footage or left digital evidence in some way. Technology has made it easier for teachers and students to connect 24/7 and has also made it easier to follow the evidence if inappropriate lines get crossed.
2. Mental Age and the Eternal Pursuit of Youth – Many young adult men and women nowadays aren’t much more mature than they were in high school and kids nowadays are exposed to increasingly mature content at younger and younger ages. With plenty of 20-30 something women who have the maturity of a 16 year old and many young men that have had access to the internet (and all of its content) since birth, it’s bound for more of them to be hooking up. You also have womens’ natural inclination to chase staying young and attractive. It would make sense for an aging woman to pursue younger men in an effort to feel desired and youthful. A.K.A. The Cougar Effect.
3. Control Issues – Most of these teachers that get caught sleeping with students range from cute to 10/10 hot. It’s not like these women can’t get sex from men their age. But they can’t control these men. Young guys are still naive, gullible and malleable about what they’ll accept from women. This creates a power imbalance where the female holds all the power and can effectively make the young man do whatever she wants.
4. Social Standards and the Lack Thereof – Since the sexual liberation of the 60’s, the standards of acceptable behavior for women have become increasingly lax. Women were traditionally expected to fill specific societal roles (Wife, Mother, Grandmother, etc) and to act accordingly. Now, the only standards American women are held to come from the overarching FSM that is heavily infused with feminist beliefs. One key belief of modern women and feminists is that a woman should face no repercussions for doing whatever she wants to do, as long as it makes her happy and doesn’t go against the FSM. There is no religion to check these women. There are no men to check these women. Women are free to do almost whatever they want to do at this point, and are actively encouraged to do so. This likely plays a large part in female teachers sleeping with underage students.
Not overlooking that it has always happened. Even the President of France had a fling with his teacher when a teenager. She then left her banker husband for him, the rest is history. The control balance in the relationship might have a role to play. Speaking only for this side of the Atlantic, there are vast numbers of hopelessly inadequate males around, and teenage boys can be an attractive and precocious alternative. Public attitude has changed, 40 years ago no one would have cared………. Here’s to you Mrs Robinson!
You overlooked another motive.
Physical attraction is one. Just as teen and young legal adult females are often at the height of the beauty at ages 15 to 25 or thereabouts, so are male teens and men. Skin unblemished, often seems to ‘glow’ even without makeup for women, often no scars or calluses on the male teens.
Teenage young men (and past puberty that’s what they are, whether they are 18 or not, our unusual legal regime concerning AOC has nothing to do with reality or reproductive age) are, to put it bluntly, UBER horny. I remember in my mid teens going in certain classes and having an erection almost the whole class either due to the teacher, or, more common, some kind of skimpy clothes the girls in the class were wearing. Not that I didn’t have a “crush” on a teacher now and then (though most were middle aged and frumpy on up to actually old , there were a few 20 and 30 something ‘hotties’ now and again). My worst was my Exploratory Language teacher and it lasted nearly 2 years. She was a tall, blonde, slim German woman with a sexy German accent who was only 23 or 24 during the time I knew her. I had her for the aforementioned language class, and then the next year she was my “Home Room” teacher. And yes, I often didn’t raise my hand or want to ‘present’ in that class as I was horny most days. She’s also the only teacher I ever ‘deliberately’ got a detention from, and I only did it once. I was too good a kid to really push anyone even for attention.
So most of these relationships are consensual at least if we didn’t pretend that teenagers have no agency or even sexual feelings and desires. And remember, historically, ‘teenager’ is a modern invention, past societies often considered you at least a partial adult when you started puberty and one can find plenty of guilds in the middle ages with apprentices as young as age 12.
Notice I say “most” not all and I freely agree that teachers sometimes can employ ‘grade pressure’ or other abuses of power, or they can employ alcohol or drugs which, as an adult, they have more access to. And of course not every teen boy is heterosexual, some are super shy or religious or both, so some can be shamed/pressured into it.
Hold on Clarence, I did not overlook anything. I only passed along someone else’s thoughts. I have edited the post to make that clear,
With respect, I have an issue, several in fact with the author’s statements in paragraph 4… not the least of which was having to look up ‘FSM’. Assuming the reference wasn’t ‘Flying Spaghetti Machine’, most of his points struck me as misdirected hostility towards women for having the audacity to behave as badly as many men have done. Many of the points in paragraph’s 1, 2 and 3; I would agree with to some degree. But lack of moral compass or adult emotional maturity isn’t a gender driven issue insofar as I can see, and wasn’t brought about by women or feminism… at least in no way, alone.
You asked the question about female teachers and male students, not the other way around. There are cultural and perhaps biological differences between these two dynamics, but there is also much in common – basic sex drive that sometimes gets intertwined with curiosity and even obsession to defy societal norms even at great risk.
A key difference is that women and girls can get pregnant, so they’re less inclined to go all the way or even get involved unless they figure out birth control. So if a female teacher is so prepared, it’s easier to find her “victim”. (A male teacher needs to find his “victim” then deal with birth control – condoms only sort of count, as I understand it.)
Saturday Night Live has an amusing skit on this subject https://youtu.be/m6uvv1aS5_I?si=xFLJJqT5EhC1Gx26
Puberty seem to be happening earlier in both boys and girls, plus teenage boy are a lot larger now and look more like young men. They seem to have no problem performing and having kids. It is a surprise that it doesn’t happen more often, and just maybe, it is.
To Quote Van Halen ” Hot for Teacher”
Disappointing that the discussion went in all directions away from the topic, which was female teachers taking advantage of adolescent males. If you did not agree with the author’s point, you could have offered your positive alternative,
First, you have more self-control than I would have, especially from the pseudo Intellectual.
it occurs to me that a hormone fueled 16 or 17-year-old male would be at the mercy of most attractive women teachers. If they are a schoolteacher, they have tacit, psychological and sociological permission to accept the invitation. . After all, she is the teacher,.
I personally know two people that were seduced by female teachers when they were in high school. In the first case, they were found out and the teacher was fired. they were in Richardson Texas I wonder how many of these cases there are that we don’t know about?
The second one was a younger boy about 16 In a rural area in East Texas. He got the teacher pregnant and his parents were very conservative religious people and insisted that they get married. So they did.
I’ve heard other stories, but because I do know these two happened and the boy was seduced in both cases It wasn’t their idea.
Wow, I am surprised that the parents wanted them to get married. Were there any repercussions when people in the community found out? Are they still married
We did volunteer work with the local PD. I initially did vacation home patrol. Bacall worked at the academy. Then Bacall and I worked in criminal investigation, where sex offenders had to come every month, pay $20, fill out a form and be interviewed by a detective. We did the filing. There were more than a few 18yo who screwed a 17yo and later married. They had to report every month for life. Unless they had the money to hire a lawyer to petition the state for a waiver.
Almost every week I see that a 30yo teacher has been charged with having sex with a minor. They will be reporting every month for life.
Yeah, the sex offender registries mostly piss me off.
A) They include tons of ‘offenders’ like the 18/17 cases you talk about who arguably shouldn’t even be in the criminal justice system at all, let alone on some freaking list alongside rapists (the old fashioned non stat kind) and actual child molestors (buggered lil Jimmy, age 7)
B) The lists don’t give enough relevant information. So you don’t often know except in a VERY GENERAL WAY (and that’s if you look up the statutes) if you’ve got a bush pee-er or some guy who raped 4 women. But vigilantes can use them and assume the worst.
C) Why the heck don’t we have MURDERER and Violent People registries? Most of us are in far more danger from them then from the 30 year old who had otherwise consensual sex with some 16 or 17 year old girl. It’s even worse when they are ‘strict liability’ states. Meaning she could be in a club with a fake ID, look 20 or 25, and never deny she wanted to have sex with you or that she deceived you, and it wouldn’t legally matter. How this is just or fair, you tell me.
D) Lifetime registration is an abomination for some of these cases. And where’s the room for an offender to repent? These lists make rehabilitation into normal society often impossible and put someone’s friends and family at risk too. Sure , for serial rapists, someone who violently buggered a child, that sort of thing maybe we don’t want them ever fully put back into society. But a guy who ‘exposed ‘ himself because he was drunk and peeing in a dark ally at midnight? Or the teacher who legitimately fell for someone who was 17 or 18 and in his Senior class? Or in a non-hypothetical but REAL case, the poor guy who ordered hundreds of manga per month from Japan and went to jail because in ONE of them they had TEENAGE ELVES having sex?
I agree, that one size fits all is not fair or just.
We do the same with non-sex offenders in Alabama. There is no chance of parole after 30 years, even when the prosecutor advocates parole.
That’s interesting, our sex offenders register system is more flexible, and offenders are placed on it for a fixed term. A female teacher who has a sexual relationship with a pupil would be banned for life from teaching, would have a custodial sentence, and be made to join the sex offenders register. Age of consent here is 16 for heterosexual relationship, so a female teacher who has sex with a 15 year old pupil has committed two offences. Underage sex is not treated as rape unless it was non-consensual. The current First Lady of France could have been sentenced to 7 years for having sex with the young Macron, but her husband at the time was well connected, and the matter was lost in the maze of the French legal system. Besides, it was France, where sex scandals are viewed differently.
Here there are several female teachers prosecuted each year for having sex with male or female pupils. There’s no plea bargaining system here, so the Crown Prosecution Service has to be certain of a full conviction or they drop the case, meaning there are many more dropped cases than those which go through to prosecution. In turn taking into account those teacher/pupil relationships which have not yet come to the notice of the authorities, there must be a significant number in total.
Also our welfare system requires that male pupils who had sexual relations with their female teachers are subjected to the same lengthy periods of counselling as victims of rape. If the boy is under 18, he is treated as a victim regardless of how consensual the relationship was.
Teachers of either sex may be motivated by lust and undeterred by the potential retribution based on legal and cultural standards. Our legal threshold at 18 is a blunt instrument, often unfair but we do need something.
But a female teacher can more easily take responsibility for preventing an unwanted pregnancy, so it’s easier to hook up if she chooses to do so.
Saturday Night Live, with Pete Davidson and Ronda Rousey, did a fun skit.
I have to admit this subject is not an easy one, and I initially was going to ignore it. But, there are things that need said.
There is a lot to be said for technology and social media. Today it is much easier to interact on a sexual basis one on one without anyone else being aware. This did not exist just 40 years ago. There has always been the Cougar Effect where women are afraid their youth is waning and their self worth is tied up in being forever young.
The situation doesn’t happen in a vacuum. There are psychological issues going on in their lives which turns them to an irrational alternative. This kind of a relationship is indeed irrational, and should be recognized as such and appropriate counselling undertaken.
But, you lose me immediately and completely when I read “there are no men and no religion to keep these women in check.” This is a disturbing thought. Maybe we need to go back to the days where women have no rights including not holding jobs, voting, and property ownership??? That would keep “those women” in check.
But, you lose me immediately and completely when I read “there are no men and no religion to keep these women in check.”
NO, NO, NO. I did NOT write the article. I found some of the reasons that women go after underage boys plausible, I ignored parts of the article.
Please accept my apologies! My post was badly worded. I absolutely know you didn’t write it. I was commenting on the post as written. I should have made that abundantly clear.
I had a relationship with an older women when I was 19. She wasn’t a teacher, and I did as much to initiate it as she did, but she was 35, so 16 years older. She had four kids, but was so hot. she ended up leaving her husband, and we lived together for 14 months. her oldest daughter was just three years younger than me, but was no where near as hot as her mom.
it was an educational experience when I eventually realized I was the mature one in the relationship. I moved out, and she eventually went back to her husband. it was something of a scandal in our community.
How did you get along with the oldest daughter? Did she resent you?
the kids didn’t live with us, so I didn’t spend much time with them, but she seemed cool enough. for a long time, I don’t think she understood how young I was.